[MUD-Dev] Java and Javascript

Jon A. Lambert Jon.A.Lambert at ix.netcom.com
Fri Feb 27 22:05:11 New Zealand Daylight Time 1998


On 27 Feb 98 at 16:51, Ben Greear wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Feb 1998, Jon A. Lambert wrote:
> 
> > Yep.  Big problem.  Will they ever?  Not if IE supplants Netscape and 
> > Sun doesn't cry uncle and remove or revise certain "MS offensive" 
> > specifications from the 1.1 JDK.  BTW, This is not a diatribe either 
> > way, just an observation of the current state.  
> > 
> > One can get most of the 1.1 JDK to work in most browsers.  It's just
> > a real pain in the ass to find out what to stay way from.  The 
> > only alternative is to maintain different versions. (groan)
> 
> Thats not really true.  AFAIK, only netscape 4.04 with the java
> patch and IE 4.01 will run JDK 1.1.  I think Netscape 4.0x with a
> patch will kinda run 1.1.  Hotjava and stuff will, of course...but
> no one has it..
>

You are correct.  My goof.  The 4.x browsers only account for about 
20% of the market currently.  
 
> > 
> > ActiveX is supported by Netscape and IE so thats 80%+ of your 
> > web clients (Lynx be damned!).  However, I don't know of any non-MS 
> > server-side support for ActiveX.  JavaBeans are also easier to code 
> > and understand. 
> 
> Hmmm, might have been a misunderstanding here.  activator is a
> product from sun that will leverages a JRE or JDK (the latest, or
> you're choice) to run applets.  It's a plugin, and they supposedly
> work with netscape 3.03+ and IE 3.??+.  Last time I tried my applet
> it choked though..although from Solaris it did quite nicely.
> 

I guess so.  I'd hadn't heard of Activator.   Sounds like it 
redirects the execution of the bytecode over to the Sun VM.
Hmmm... Another layer of interface?

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