[MUD-Dev] META: membership

Cimri cimri1 at gte.net
Mon Apr 13 10:04:31 New Zealand Standard Time 1998


Holly,

Welcome to the sooper sekrit eeeeleeeetisst list!

Jay // Cimri

Holly Sommer wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Ben Greear wrote:
> 
> > > >Is Holly on here?  She has been around for years and remained
> > > >relatively sane :)
> 
> It is slowly slipping away. Maybe refuge and a place to speak on
> meaningful topics w/o degenerating into flames will help. I hope so.
> 
> > > Nope.  She's knew to me.  If you think she'd be a good list member, then
> > > invite her!
> 
> JC: I've seen your sig a few times. Mostly, my past posting habits have
> seen me nesting in rgmd... but the newsfeed I have at work allows me to
> infiltrate rgma alot more frequently now, too :)
> 
> > Holly, I've seen your posts on RGMA and am extending an invitation to
> > join the mud-dev mailing list.  Its a private list, and we keep it
> > very high signal to noise.  Personal attacks are not welcome, but you
> > wouldn't be seeing this from me if I thought you would...
> 
> Not in public. Private email is another matter :) For the record, I
> regard listservs as public, to this matter.
> 
> > You've got a point, but I think that even just CC'ing this group's
> > posts to RGMA might offer those who are looking for it a glimpse
> > of civility and thought that they otherwise would not find.  AFAIK
> > RGMD and RGMA spawned many of us, I know it did me.
> >
> > I'm not suggesting that we allow losers to post here as they wish
> > however, they should have to pass some kind of minimal decency test :P
> >
> > I still think it would be a shame to allow RGM* to die though..although
> > I am at a loss as to how to save them from themselves...
> 
> My thoughts on this...
> 
> Actually, I am part of a very old listserv which sprang into existence
> from our familiarity with each other on a newsgroup. Said newsgroup
> (alt.society.generation-x) went through some really REALLY bad periods,
> but, it prevailed.
> 
> For awhile there was much teeth gnashing and wailing over the state of
> the "sooper sekrit listserv what gets elitist" and whether this would
> mark the end of asg-x. *snort* No, Usenet lives on. asg-x and rgm.* are
> high-volume newsgroups, even if the quality of content might not always
> agree with the more civilized and mindful members of the newsgroups.
> 
> I'll be the first one to admit that the content of a choice few folks on
> rgmd and rgma drive me straight up the wall, and that it's a test of my
> patience to not blurt out something dumb like "shut the &%($ up." But...
> that's par for the course, wrt Usenet anymore.
> 
> Something like this listserv is good, because it allows those of us who
> wish to keep on-topic, remain civil, exchange information, debate (not to
> be confused with "argue"), etc., to do so. And, what's more, it's
> delivered to our Very Own Email Box :) No news feeds and their
> barnacle-like accompanying spam to deal with.
> 
> As for posting some things from this serv to Usenet... well, based on
> past experience in similar situations, I'm not sure that's a good idea.
> Some people will feel indignant - "hey, how come I've not been invited!?
> *stamp* *pout* *scream*". Others will cry elitism - which, even if it is
> true, doesn't bode well with the general (usenet) public. I view it as a
> slight tease, but that's just MO, and I obviously have no moral qualms
> about being a member of a... more selective group of conversationlists :)
> 
> So... thanks for the invite :) I'm looking forward to the discussions
> here. If anyone else is unfamiliar with me, I would be glad to provide a
> little background (to the whole serv, if that's acceptable, or to
> individual queries), just to let y'all know where I'm coming from.
> 
> -Holly
> 
> PS: the obvious allusion to /dev/null is good for some laughs :)
> 
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