[MUD-Dev] Player-admins, was wimping/wiping and the big blind spot
malaprop at malaprop.org
Wed Aug 9 17:51:41 New Zealand Standard Time 2000
Brian Green wrote:
>> > Peter: 'Ugh, how can you code if you don't know what's fun?'
>> I have to raise a complaint against this mindset, as I've
>> encountered it many times in the past and found it to be poorly
>Oooh, I think I'll do likewise with your points.
>> You do not have to play a game in order to know what would be good
>> for your game, for in truth this is not that difficult of a thing.
>If it's not that difficult, why do so many players think that admins
>screw it up on a regular basis? Heck, why do so many admins they they
>screw it up on such a regular basis? (Myself included!)
>The ideal situation would be to play your game exhaustively. Play
>race/class combination in every area using every possible skill.
>Obviously, unless your MUD is extremely limited (or, you have given up
>the need to sleep and are independently wealthy), then this is
>impossible. So, most people settle for playing a subset of the game
>judging it from there.
This wasn't what I meant. If you do that, you'll end up chasing your
tail fixing things you percieve as problems that your players don't give
a care about. Almost every admin plays their muds enough, sometimes too
much. The problem with an admin playing their own mud is that they know
everything. They'll know when they'll get that next skill, how tough the
mob hiding the basement is, where to get eq.
I'm saying play other people's muds. Play the muds that players run
because they like muds so much they think it'd be fun. Look at what they
change. Look at what they create. It may not be balanced, it may have
typos, it may be ugly sometimes, but- it's fun. They scratch the right
itches. Yeah, it'd be nice to play on a mud with a player-run justice
system, but I like more to play muds that don't make me jump through
hoops to use my eq.
[a big snip]
>> Thoughout this all, the constant claim from the implementor
>> simple; "You don't play so you wouldn't know." My claim was just as
>> simple; "You don't have to play to write code."
>To split hairs, I think that you don't have to play in order to write
>code. I can write a elegant code and not play. But, I think the real
>question here is "Do you have to play in order to design a fun game?"
And I think, simply, my answer is a resounding "yes." Play games. Have
Think about why you're having fun- is it because you're finding a
well-orcestrated and excellently executed balance of powers between the
character classes, or because you got a nifty new sword and there's a
mob you just bet you're strong enough to take out now? Because the NPCs
can hold a conversation, or because you finally found the key to the
locked grate in the dark end of the sewers?
Are you playing a game or are you watching a simulation? And which is
fun versus intellectualy stimulating?
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