[MUD-Dev] Blacksnow revisted

Matt Mihaly the_logos at achaea.com
Sat Apr 20 16:29:32 New Zealand Standard Time 2002


On Thu, 18 Apr 2002, Kylotan wrote:
> From: Paul Schwanz <paul.schwanz at east.sun.com>
 
>> In the real world, the characters don't own anything.  They
>> cannot for the reasons you point out.  In the real world, in this
>> case, Mythic owns both the characters and the items as outlined
>> in the EULA.  But the argument that players own the items because
>> they *seem* to own them when playing the game is not an argument
>> from the real world perspective, but from the virtual world
>> perspective.  From that perspective, it seems clear to me that
>> the simple answer is that the character owns the item and not the
>> player.

> Exactly. I think Matt missed what I was saying due to poor
> expression on my part, and consequently seemed to be disagreeing
> with me when we were really saying pretty much the same
> thing. Items are only 'owned' where the game permits them to be
> owned, and in that case they will be owned by the in-game
> character, not the player, not the player's account. As far as the
> outside ('real') world is concerned, it's just data, created by
> the MUD owner, manipulated by the MUD owner, stored on the MUD
> owner's equipment. Owned by the MUD owner. Therefore the MUD owner
> almost certainly has the sole right to determine how that data is
> manipulated.

Yep, that's exactly what I was saying. Sorry if our trains crossed
in the night.

--matt

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